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[Spoilers] So I'm a Spider, So What? - Episode 23 Discussion
Discussion thread for Kumo desu ga, Nani ka? episode 23. Aired Friday, 18-Jun-2021 21:30:00 JST.
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What did you think of the episode? - Favorite scene/moment?
- Enjoying the series so far?
- What do you expect or want to happen next?
story still good AF, but CGI is disgusting.
unnecessary in some moments.
yea CGI is completely overused.
and the story hasn't gone very far in the last bunch of episodes tbh...i just wanna see spider-chan next episode ;(
Next episode title is “So I’m still a spider, so what?” (may not be completely correct cause I use anione). So she probably survived
i could understand the CGI in spider-chan 'cause it's difficult to animate but in the fight between hugo and shun the CGI is unnecessary.
the same way sometimes Ariel is in CGI when is not necessary.(plot is good, i haven't read the novel but seems good, i don't care if it goes slow or fast)
I waited an entire week just for no spider
i reckon...
especially after the end of episode 22, even halfway through this episode I was thinking to myself "i hope kumoko shows up"
I do wish the CGI wasn't completely relied on for the entire anime but I can deal with it I guess.honestly would've dropped it if the spider had less screen time than the side characters
No spider this ep :'( and like that shun guy or whatever his name is cringe af-
Elves with high-tech command center and robot, i didn't expect it.
Knew they were up to no good, but had no idea they were probably creating nukes
That was a pretty good episode despite everything but I'm once again wondering how they will wrap this up in one episode
Hopefully with a "second season greenlit" announcement!
I sure hope so...
I have read some of the source material and there is still a lot more to cover, definitely too much for one episode. Probably gonna be a cliffhanger ending. Hope we get second season!
Shun is feeling more and more like a deconstruction of a shounen protagonist as this goes on XD
he even did the whole "WITH THE POWER OF MY FRIENDS"...to no avail. Shun needs a serious reality check, because he's just a full on idiot right now. I loved that line "Julius-niisama wouldn't have run away from this fight!"...and that is why you have no idolized brother around anymore :D
If the enemy gives you an out, take it. There's no point in hurting your friends/getting them killed if it doesn't have to happen.
White is going to be joining the fight it seems, things are about to get extremely messy if her being able to singlehandedly take down the elf barrier is any indication!
Because Shun is supposed to be like it but people are unaware of this and are shitting on him instead.
Up to somewhat recently, it could have been argued that he was just "shounen protag #23432", but it became extremely obvious that the story is saying he's an idiot and needs to stop thinking so hotbloodedly, calling him out on all the things that those sort of characters usually get away with. Though the signs have always been there.
Him and Kumoko are basically opposing forces. Kumoko is all about surviving. She isn't a narcissist, or selfish (she helps others a lot), just prioritizes living. She doesn't see any value in dying just for some cause or "honor" or anything like that. And she is well aware that the world can be cruel. She also is very cautious (though she can get careless at times)
Then you have Shun: naive, extreme hero complex, and believes that the world is black and white. You're either on the side of "good" or the side of "bad". his teammates don't share this idealogy, and that's the only reason he made it this far. And he believes strongly that "good" will always triumph as long as you don't back down. That's why he said something as stupid as "I believe this is a fight that can't be backed down from", when he was in a fight that was 100% impossible to win, even with the "power of friendship". Needless to say, this also results in him hardly ever preparing or planning for anything, and just recklessly charging in, believing that he'll triumph.
If he were the protagonist, things would somehow work out in his favor via shounen magic. Fortunately, he's not, and he doesn't get any plot contrivance spray to make him "triumph". And instead is going to (hopefully) get a serious slap to the face to show him he's no "hero" and really quite selfish. Not caring about how his friends get hurt, as long as he can play Hero.
The cgi is so bad wtf why use cgi man so lazy
The story for this show doesn't make sense, the cast is too big ( I could care less about 95% of the cast). The only takeaway from this anime is that I know the demons want to kill the elves. I hope that Crunchyroll doesn't pick this anime up for a season 2. This has been a waste of 23 weeks of my life.
The story is of two timelines . In future timelines demones are trying to destroy elves. In kumoku timeline kumoku Vs demon lord happened . To know why demons wanna destroy elves read light novel
The fact the only defence of this show is go read the source is an absolute indictment of the animes narrative
I mean not really you gotta remember this is a light novel anime so they want to hype it up so that you can go and buy the light novel.
Well imo they've done a pretty piss poor job at that
Ok, thanks for letting me know that because I know Sophia was a baby but also a full-grown woman and I was a little confused like wtf is going on.
Hope they've saved some budget for the last episode. Also I see a lot of people will be surprised last episode.....
I was desperately hoping since the beginning that the anime would get better and they'd get at least a bit better on the pacing end of things, but no, even the second-to-last episode of the anime, it's still an even bigger disappointment.
The anime by itself is just okay, but compared to how awesome the Light Novel is, the anime is heavily on the worse end of adaptations that I've seen
The use of cgi in this episode is a bit excessive.
"From where I'm standing,I seriously can't understand why you all would side with them. If I had to guess, it's probably because they duped you into doing it. The elves are a threat to the entire world, man. Defending them is crazy" -Kyouya (the commander)
then they ask for explanations and the answer obsviously is:
"I guess I can't convince you, huh?" -
motherfucker didn't explain shit. FUCK, i know it can't delivery the whole story in a dialogue because of all the stuff they are building to later on probably explain (!?), but this doesn't make the dialogue less dumb imo.
Also the whole episode felt like the most generic dumb annoying shounen dialogue I've seen in a while, for the exception that the "good" side just suck.
TL;DR
"I can't understand why would you protect the elves, they're bad"
"so tell me why ffs"
"I guess we can't convince you, let's fight"
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
You kinda left out the dialogue with Oka blindly defending the elves
I mean, the whole kidnapping babies, racism and xenophobia should be enough to tell him that they're not good.
Also, explaining to Shun why the Elves are evil would take days due to all the extra information he would need.Though you also need to understand this explanation would come from the faction that started the Great Demon-Human War, killed his father, messed his kingdom and has kidnapped his little sister.
At this point trusting anyone is a big jump of faith.
What is the point of making these characters be reincarnated when they just act like generic RPG characters anyway? Aside from it apparently having something to do with whatever the elf king guy is doing, it just feels so meaningless.
pretty much, I remember people defending the plot to me earlier on ergo months ago and I feel my appreciation for the mystery and narrative has all but faded. It's truly a shame.
The human story has been the worst part of the series, utterly pointless, unlikeable characters, with predictably bad personalities.
Honestly I forgot that Shun's Nee-san had died, I care so little about these guys, and the plot just seems ever more contrived and silly.
Kind of a boring EP for me, of course that might just be because I don't really care for fight scenes in anime. They just feel unnecessary, of course depending on the type of anime, it should be expected. Rating: 4/10
Overall plot is fine, but all of these action scenes are rough. It could be worse but I expected more. I really hope they have a good conclusion next episode. Feels good to see Shun get some much needed reality check. I didn't mind him being the way he was, so it's not "too little too late".
I can see Kumoko either not coming back during the last episode or being revealed to have been alive all this time during Shun's time, but either way what this needs is a good ending point for the whole situation, not just for one character.
I'm so uninterested in the human side of the story, if it atleast looked good I wouldn't complain and well we know that isn't the case.
Well, the spider side will be pretty much concluded next week...
well, let's ignore the CGI fight because everyone know how bad it is (seriously, i don't even know what spell Katia used until Sophie explain it effect the earth)
The problem i have with this ep would be, why are they even fight Sophie at all, she already say she not gonna kill any of them and even say "the main army should be at the elf village by now, you can go there to fight if you want" . Everyone else know how strong Sophie is compare to them, it just Shun keep try to fight her for some reason, well Fei did say because of his pride but pride for what? you know demon army is attacking the village where your friends are, yet here you are wasting time with this.
They also keep talking about how the elf is the true villain here and they are the threat to the world, yet they never bother to explain any of it to them, even with that "Sensei's fully into their crap" then is it a problem to just tell Shun and other about the truth? instead of just "i don't know why you side with them" "you probably got duped by them". Explain it to them then jzzz.
They likely just cut out a lot of thing and the novel actually have them talking more but since they throw us a whole ep with just this, i want to at least complain about it how nonsense this is.
I'm fine with no spider but the cgi fights aren't fun to watch and it feels like the anime is stretching out its ending just so they can leave it on the cliffhanger of the identity of a certain character to the humans. Idk, they could have spaced out the anime a bit better instead of doing that.
Out of the past 4 episodes, 3 of them have just been reinforcing that the humans are weak with a bunch of shitty cgi. IDK why i expected anything more from the bezerk animators, somehow fucking up both the visuals and the story in one go.
Shun pulling up his mask and saying love and peace at 2fps was worst of the lot.
Also this ties into a critic I've kind of had as this series has progressed. I get the argument of hormones, and having teenage bodies could result in some level of similar attributes, but all the reincarnations at this point are double the age of when they died originally. You'd assume that'd matured somewhat.
A misstep in the writing imoI almost wish I'd never watched this anime, penultimate episodes are meant to be arguably better in some cases than final episodes. After the 2nd half began, this show has become more and more embarrassing, the CGI is horrendous, and shameful.
The story become more and more contrived, and silly, as time goes on. If there had been simply 12 episodes of Spider perhaps it would've worked better, but this is looking to finish on such a pathetic, damp squib, that it makes me wish incy wincy spider had been washed down my preverbal watchlist much much sooner.
I never expected the elves have high-tech weaponry
