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← darkroom
why do people only use 6-10 on the rating system
i often see people with lists where they use barely, if any ratings under 6 which doesn't make sense when 5 is average, and i bet you you've definitely seen a lot of things that are below average, yet people still rate them high like a 7 for some reason
subjective and maybe they just don't take stuff that seriously.
That's so true, but in the same way, I only look for anime and mangas that I like and seem good tho, so... and I guess everyone is like that ahaahah.
Same. Since early 2020, anytime i feel like im not enjoying something
enough early on to rate it a 6 at least already, i just drop it. Yeah i still
come across ones i end up rating low, but that's on rare occasions now.
probably just like me that shows your overconsumption. you know all the tropes by now and you don't feel that magic so often anymore.
because if it's below a 5 why would i bother watching it all the way through
but are you telling me you've really only seen 2 anime that are below average
Not everyone wants to experiment and try shit/obscure anime. They want to see anime that's widely known as good rather than an anime that's widely known as mediocre
i've seen quite a few anime that are known as good and are pretty popular that i've seen as below average, so for people with much higher watch times than me to have seen little to none really would surprise me
There is no rule that says 5 should be average.
what is the point of a 1-10 rating scale if it's not linear? 5 is the middle, and therefore the average between 1-10.
Nothing is linear for everyone, people have their own guidelines on what they like and don't like.
For me, I use stars, and based on things I watched previously and my enjoyment of the show I'll rate it accordingly.
Sometimes I'll go back and lower a score because I rewatched some of it and realized it was much worse than I remembered
It makes even less sense if it is linear. A 10/10 anime isn't 10 times better than a 1/10 anime. Rating systems are inherently non-linear.
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Sure there's no problem with a 10/10 anime being 10 times better than a 1/10 anime. Doesn't even have to be 10 times. Could be 5 times, 50 times, 2 times. If people's ratings are consistent with the things they value in an anime, then you can make sense of it. But when the rating 6-9 are the most used, then it's a bit silly. You look at a 6 rating on anime lists and you don't think it's 'somewhat above average', you probably think 'it's probably average or below average'. anything 5 or under is probably just bad. (Not to act like I'm not guilty of this too) Maybe linear is not the word I'm looking for, but you get the point.
I posted this in the thread already but I'll post it again, I think it's a pretty good watch. He suggests that people have a bias when using 1-10 (or 1-100) rating systems from the school grading system & proposes a solution. It wouldn't matter if something is scored 1.0 or 5.0 if it's all a failing grade.
people are probably used to the school grading system, where a 70% is average
Oh, that actually makes sense. But imo in that case it makes more sense to use the 5-star system to make use of all the scores... but I guess there's not really much to do if people just like the normal 10-point system.
5 - A
4 - B
3 - C
2 - D
1 - Fi second this
I use the 5-star systen because its easier for me to just go,
5 - best, loved it - 10/10 would watch again
4 - good
3 - fine
2 - harder to watch/forcing self to watch
1 - why did I do this to myselfYeah, that's definitely easier. I do prefer 10-points though just to spread them out more and get more variety.... however, I don't want to venture into using decimals because that would be too specific and I'm too lazy lol.
I mean the 10 point system could be looked at as a more spread out version of stars, and stars could be a more spread out version of the faces.
iirc I chose stars bc it was easiest to set in both taiga and the anilist website
The school grading system you talk about is not worldwide so it doesn't really make sense.
Yeah it does... just because not everybody uses it doesn't mean it isn't one of the reasons. If AniList's primary user-base, or at least a large chunk of it, is in the west, then the western grading system will have some influence
ye not only that, i feel like most mainstream anime is just pretty good? I rarely see a bad anime that isn't super niche.
man i wish i had your mindset
would've been saved from turning into a masochist
Since 5.5 is actually the average on a 10 scale, it feels tough to determine the difference between 5 or 6.. so I like to use the out-of-5 scale personally. Still, I also tend to rate shows as 4/5 or 5/5 pretty often.
It feels like if I start a show, then it must have seemed interesting or I had good reason to think I'd like it. By consequence, I end up rating a lot of shows higher than the 3/5 "average", since I'm liking much of the shows I watch.
It's pretty much standard across any non-critic rating places that anything being below 7/10 or [somewhere from 3.5 to 4] stars means it's shit, hence people tend to rate things 7+ if it's not shit.
Of course, people can rate however. But anything with <60% mean score here and I assume it contains major things that make people not like it, like nonconventional or bad animation or specific ecchi elements that I find are unpopular.
I think the long and short is that most people don't care. I don't rate all that serious, I use it as my own point of reference so I can look through my list and see how much I enjoyed something. The reason I track anime is because it's hard to keep everything I;ve watched in my head, and use it as a way to know what to recommend to people. It helps jog my memory.
Most of my shows are rated 7-10, as I typically enjoy a lot of what I watch. I try not to drop, so there are some shows I don't like. I'm often recommended anime by others so even if I'm not super sold on it, I'll see it through to give them my thoughts and chat with them. In those cases I would use a lower rating. If I used the 1-5 system, most shows would be 4-5, so the question could be asked "Why do people only use 4-5 on a 1-5 scale" and then be recommended to use the smiley system. It all comes down to personal preference or, more likely, people don't think too hard about it.
Another note: Some people might be able to switch to a 1-5 system, but if they use another anime tracking site like MyAnimeList and keep both lists up-to-date, it's easier to stick to using the same 1-10 system on both sites than having to translate the scores for AniList.
i bet you you've definitely seen a lot of things that are below average, yet people still rate them high like a 7 for some reason
I don't really know what you mean by this exactly. If someone rates it a 7 we can assume they enjoyed it, so it's not below average to them?
Perhaps they just seem to enjoy most shows to some degree thus not ending up rating them lower than that. I personally don't have many shows that fall below 7 and the majority sit in the 7-9 scale, why? Well because if I get enjoyment from an anime it's enough for me to rate it 7 as ''good'' I rarely stumble across shows I end up hating and rating them below 6.
Most people have not seen a lot of anime. It's impossible to be over 200-300 and think everything is at least 7/10.
im not sure what you mean by its impossible to be over 200-300
i meant to have watched over 200-300 anime
oh i think i just misread what you meant with that. my brain like omitted everything after it for some reason lmao. i agree with you though, most of my show do happen to be 7+
if a show is a 5 or less i almost always drop it because imo it's not worth finishing. i've seen a lot of anime that are mediocre but they don't end up on my list because i don't watch them all the way through. forcing myself to finish mediocre shows is just a waste of time imo, i'd rather just drop it and move on to the next thing in search of something worthwhile. i'm sure it's similar for other people out there
- Because a lot of people quickly drop things but they don't feel like rating it at all then.
- Because people who aren't really "critical" or don't have much of "critical eye" or however you wanna put it, are often prone to praise things for the concept alone and turn a blind eye on possibly bad execution. Therefore if a synopsis and tags alone made them really interested, big chances are that such series already took a W in their book. SAO is surely one of the best examples of that. On paper it sounds like it's amazing (especially when it started since isekais weren't multiplying like rabbits back then) and it is about what it promised to be. And for many people that is already more than enough, their primary expectations were likely delivered.
At least that's how I see it. Neither point of view applies to me so all I can do is guess.
People are just too lazy to rate things they don't like. They usually only finish stuff they consider to be a 6 or above and anything else doesn't get finished so they think they shouldn't rate it. It's laziness and kind of annoys me because you absolutely can and should rate things you don't finish too.
What really makes me mad are people who rate shit like this then think 6s or 5s are low scores to give anime. They're not bad scores at all, but they condition themselves to think that. To them, a 7 is an average score and anything lower than that means it's garbage.
But hey, I'm just glad most still rate things with whole numbers to 10. Anyone who rates things with decimals or 1-100 are insane.
Admittedly, the main reason my mean anime score sits at around 57% is half of it is stuff I watched a decade ago that I wouldn't touch with a 10 ft stick these days or at least would've dropped waaaaaay sooner.
because why would someone purposely watch something bad? even if something is bad a 6 still be saying "its ight... not too bad but not good either" most below 5 ratings are given when u purposely watch trash so u can appreciate the good stuff.
I think his question was directed towards people who say "6 is garbage" and not people who just drop things they don't like or "purpose watch trash". It seems so based on his response.
If something was so bad that I would want to give it a 0-4 it is unlikely that I watched much of it and I don't feel comfortable rating something of which I've only seen a small amount.
It can also be misleading because anime have a high barrier to entry due to the cost of producing one so you don't see many abject failures but doujins on the other hand you do.
Personality, I don't usually rate below a 6 unless I really dislike the show (a lot), or the flaws are too much to overlook. For example, although the show 'I'm standing on one million lives (s1)' isn't really good at all, it had some plot points I liked and some unexpected developments which I also liked, so I gave it a 6.5, but with a show like 'Maken-Ki' it is pretty much just trash which had nothing interesting going for it so I gave it a 2.
If people only rate 6/7-10 all the stuff they see because most people only want to watch "good stuff" they rate higher shows that are not that good then you cannot really judge if a show is avarege, below avarge , good or masterpice if they shortage the rates.
In my country we have 0-10 score and you pass with a 5.
Not everybody uses the same rating system.
For me 7/10 is average and anything below a 5 is borderline unwatchable.
Even with all of that ratings are ultimately subjective and I'm sure many people disagree with your highly objective ratings. /s
For example (and just to be clear, this isn't an attack) you gave "Haikyuu To The Top", "BNHA" and "SNK S3" 2/5 stars, even though objectively they're absolutely nowhere near that bad.
Different opinions exist my dude.
