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Where do you lie on the left-right political spectrum?
Recently enrolled in law class and I was wondering where the anime community stood.
No senseless debates please; I don't want mods to take this down - educational purposes only
I like the attempt at one upping dunkan from your initial image choice but Dunkan still wins, sorry
Dunkan was 3 seconds late. And 'initial image'?
It's funny because my initial comment was the Unicode character for the 'Hammer and sickle' which I later felt was unrecognizable and so I decided on adding a larger image, had almost nothing to do with anyone. And it's not a competition xD but if you consider it so, enjoy I guess.
Left
fuck politics
that's your look
You're now officially invited to my grill party :) <3
socialist/democratic socialist
Don't particuarly care for terminology and the left/right method of describing politics, but left is progressive like renewable energy, and right is conservative like anti gay marriage, correct? If I got that correct, definately left, but not so far I go to protests.
Australia doesn't really have a left wing party though, Liberals are FAR Right, and Labor is Middle maybe slightly Right. Greens are our Left party, but no party other then Labor and Liberals get elected, so Australia is as good as a 2 party country.
I get most of my Aussie political news from Friendly Jordies. Are you familiar with him?
Pretty much the same here in America. We have the Republicans as our far right party and the Democrats who are our center-right party, but both are basically controlled by the rich.
The left doesn't really have a voice and I doubt America will have have a center-left party because socialism and communism are scary words due to the red scare, mccarthism, and just plain old 20+ years of mud slinging and bad faith politicans. The overton window is a bitch.
i dont fully understand what youre saying since im not really well versed with politics but what youre saying ive never heard before
ive never heard of democrats being center right at all and isnt far right like, the nazis and the kkk?
i understood the spectrum to look more like this
far left----------liberals/democrats------------centrists-----------republicans/conservatives----------far right
but like not all democrats are far right just as liberals arent far left eitherYou're right that being a liberal/conservative does not mean you are part of the extremes and I'll admit I made a hasty overgeneralized the democratic party when it's more of a larger range between center and center-right with left leaning members. To clarify, I'm talking about parties and not individual people nor the common citizen.
I understand that you are commenting for a tl:dr kinda thing for the answer, but I can't do that. I can't give you a satisfyingly detailed answer nor do I have the time to do that. I already have a ton of writing to do for my other classes. If you're interested, here are some articles to read to learn more.
https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow
https://www.gale.com/c/political-extremism-and-radicalism-far-right-groups-in-america
https://www.sv.uio.no/c-rex/english/groups/compendium/what-is-right-wing-extremism.html
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alt-right
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states
https://www.gale.com/intl/essays/aurelien-mondon-antonia-vaughan-trump-presidency-mainstreaming-far-right-politics
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-republican-party-isnt-rebranding-after-2020/
https://www.thenationalnews.com/opinion/comment/why-republicans-are-becoming-more-extreme-without-trump-1.1215194
https://medium.com/discourse/is-the-democratic-party-a-center-right-party-47a9271a6c8e
https://democracy.psu.edu/poll-report-archive/americans-not-only-divided-but-baffled-by-what-motivates-their-opponents/
Left. I'm not too into politics in general, but the things I support - e.g. higher education reform, universal healthcare, LGBT rights - are typically championed by left-wing politicians and advocates, so I definitely identify a lot more with the left than the right.
Off compass anarcho-transhumanist with nazbol-monarchist characteristics
Socialist / Communist: I believe in the eventual establishment of a classless, moneyless, and stateless society.
And yeah, using only one dimension (left to right) to measure political thought is pretty inaccurate.
Strongly right wing. Most weebs seem to be lefties from my experiences both online and in person though.
opposite in my experience💅
That's quite interesting. Which country are you in? I'm wondering if it would differ from country to country.
United States
but the US is divided af so everyone's experience can be very differentOkay, I'm in the UK so maybe its just different here.
I think nowadays its leaning more left. But weeb culture definitely originated from far right spaces like 4chan.
4chan isnt a monilith and this is a perfect example of how the window has shifted. It used to be a "far left pedo ring" now its a "far right nazi site".
bruh every time i mention 4chan u pop up lol
i think its a little bit of a false equivalency to paint 4chan ever being far left
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My quotation marks meant to imply that's how it gets reported in the msm and on social media.
I can post proof if you like.
I think it's interesting to think about the distinction between fans of anime and manga. cause from my perspective, people who consume Japanese media, specifically anime and manga, are so diverse it would be hard for me to label them as one thing. I guess it's also important to know what we define as a 'weeb' too. imo that could mean a few different things lol
The weeb community has been mostly right for a very long time, but most of the newcomers/normies tend to be very left since anime randomly become trendy out of nowhere.
center, leaning kinda left
i live under a rock, and under the rock we do not have politics, only refried beans
Is this Patrick?
ah shoot! i got caught! YOULL NEVER TAKE MY MAYO
Mood, I vote for this.
I don't think about it much but I'm pretty close to an established liberal. I don't know where that lies in the right-left spectrum, but I'd guess left since I hardly agree with the right wing.
https://www.britainschoice.uk/segments/established-liberals/
I don't know where that lies in the right-left spectrum
We have to talk about an absolute spectrum instead of one relative to the Overotn Window of a given country.
What I mean is: Let's take the US, for instance cuz it's easier to demonstrate. In the US liberals are usually considered left wingers, cuz of the two main parties the liberal party (Democrats) is the one further to the left. Meanwhile in the UK, liberals would probably be considered centrists, cuz the liberal party (LibDems) is in the centre between Labour and Conservatives.
With that we can already see that liberals' position in the spectrum can change depending on how far left or how far right other parties go. In the US liberalism is the furthest left mainstream ideology, so it's considered left (thankfully this has started to change). While in the UK you have a mainstream Social Democratic party (Labour) so liberalism is a centrist ideology.
With all of that in mind, if we are to try and make an absolute spectrum, all capitalist ideologies would be to the right and all socialist one to the left. In this spectrum, social democracy would be probably the closest ideology to the centre, and liberalism would be centre-right.Now, with all of that being said, I hate talking about political ideologies in just one dimension, so considering 3 dimensions: Economic (left-right), Structural (anarchy-totalitarianism), and Social (progressive-reactionary). Liberalism would be Economic: right, Structural: centre (i.e. representative democracy), and Social: progressive leaning.
Well, that's a surprisingly good post I didn't expect to see here. Took me a while to visualise the 3D representation. I'd say close to centre in economic, I think a mixture of highly regulated capitalism and socialism would create the most efficient economy. Certainly far more regulation than we currently have in the UK, more along the lines of what the EU has been doing. Structural and social sound about right.
So I'd say you're very close to a social democrat. Of course, nobody fits perfectly with an ideology, but what you described sounds really close to social democracy. So, in a one-dimension spectrum, you'd be close to a centrist.
Congrats, now r/anticentrism can come after you lol.
Haha. I do usually vote for the Labour Party so that doesn't come as a surprise. Even though I think their current leader is a mole.
Never seen that sub. Guess some sub diving is due.
The sub came from a youtube series called Centricide by Jreg. It's about extremists joining forces to fight the status quo, with many layers of irony.
Even though I think their current leader is a mole
Oh I miss Corbyn.
top right
what exactly do you mean by left / right spectrum? because that's technically just a single axis on economic thought, despite the uninformed masses referring to progressive social ideologies as "left" and conservative / regressive social ideologies as "right".
social + economic standings.
then I'm more or less forced to be left because the right wants my kind dead
I've found that no purely left or right society is optimal
I agree. If the two sides could get along and compromise more often, then the Right could keep us grounded while the Left moved us forwards.
Left. I'm in the US and live in the south.
i actually am centerish depending on who runs - like ... (I'm American btw) i don't really like Trump but i also don't really like Biden but Biden is doing a better job than trump i feel like so far... but I'm mostly center
I more or less agree. We could have done way better than Biden, but hey, any port in a storm.
Left, halfway down between centrist and pure.
I’m pretty far left because I’m progressive when it comes to rights, the environment, etc. But in terms of voting I vote less left leaning than where I stand due to economic concerns.
Like I’d vote liberal not NDP or green party (Canadian parties).
