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Edit: Can't believe how big this thread now lol XD
I mean if a bad anime didn't exist we wouldn't learn from our mistakes
anyways these anime can burn in hell
Redo of Healer
Hortensia SAGA
Demon Slayer Kimetsu no Yaiba 2
Just why a Recap?
And
Redo of Healer
I mean, do I need to say why.
Eureka Seven AO
Eureka Seven HiEvolution 1
Anemone Eureka Seven HiEvolution
EUREKA Koukyoushihen Eureka Seven HiEvolution
The biggest shitstains on an incredible anime. Fuck Bones and whoever wrote these and thought they were necessary to add to Eureka Seven
Naruto and Evangelion
but Evangelion is a masterpiece though
It was very boring. no good characters in it. same generic tsundere and kuudere. Also shinji was the most annoying mc i have ever seen in anime
Shinji maybe annoying, But his annoying personality Made a sense. Imaging if you forced to fight cosmic horror aliens using cosmic horror Giant robot which actually Can endangered entire humanity population Also, I like Shinji. His character is great. He's just not my most favorite
You know i can see where people are coming, characters in NGE just fall in an infinite downward spiral of depression and self loathing and just accept it, sometime they have some really long crisis but they never really attempt to solve their problems.
And NERV apparently has fired all its therapists and counselors lmao, the entire show can totally feel like misery porn with some crosses and giant monsters thrown into it.
correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Asuka and Rei kinda popularize those kinds of character tropes?
Yes
so why are they complaining that they're generic when they literally the source of thousands of tsunderes and kuuderes lmfao. You can call the copies generic. But not the originals lmao
I see why people say this, but I completely disagree. Shinji is one of the most human protagonists I've seen in an anime and Asuka and Rei have more depth than "just tsundere and kuudere". While some people may find them annoying, Evangelion has the best-written characters in anything I've seen in my opinion. It also has the best ending of any anime ever.
Is it okay to say "every ecchi?"
It's weird to me that the genre even exists as a whole genre in the first place ^^'
And I don't have any I care about so all of them vanishing works perfectly for me :)
I think the same, but with Isekai
Agree for Isekai too actually. But only the generic ones that get repeated every year:
ie. Die after living a worthless life in modern times -> Go to fantasy world -> Pretend the
past-life didn't exist cause ya know, it was just thrown in the plot -> Be overpowered ->
Get a harem/reverse-harem -> Whatever the ending is (I never finish them so I don't know)
Isekai still consists of stuff like Spirited Away, Inuyasha, etc. So as a trope, it can
still be fine. It's just been butchered so thoroughly over the years unfortunately -_-
Anything with NTR
I dunno why some people love NTR genre. That one always hurt
NTR can encompass a wide array of scenarios! (This is a bit of a meme but yeah)
Ultimately if I were to hazard making a guess as to why I like it is ultimately I like my partner enjoying themselves, this, generally, trumps all else. For someone to go through with such means they must be enjoying themselves quite a lot. Obviously no one* really wants this "Netorare" to happen non consensually, theoretically it should always be netorase or something along those lines. This shouldn't really need to be explained as people having fantasies about things that they don't actually want to experience is in fact pretty normal.
No Longer Human
A Girl on the Shore
trash tier
Not really, no. I think every fiction has a right to exist, and everyone has the right to enjoy what they enjoy without being judged.
I don't agree literally watch this and you will disagree
Pupa
I have watched pupa and it wasn't bad. It was rushed and the pacing was terrible but it wasn't bad. In fact, I'm planning on reading the manga to see what happens next.
you like incest oh hecks nah ☹️
Typical twitter behavior. According to your logic, if someone likes elfen lied, they must also love murdering people.
And fyi, I don't like incest but there are other things in pupa apart from incest which you would have understood if you weren't so narrow minded
How do you even know if I'm narrow-minded I just don't like the incest I think it ruins the show never said it was ass if you like the show that's fine its just in my opinion I would be better off with the show never existing in the first place -_-
@Ivyx , makes a good point.
Tokyo Revengers is in your favourites, do you also enjoy beating and murdering children??
I mean yeah I'm just saying I don't like rape child p word sexual assault and incest makes me supers uncomfortable
Just curious. Didn't those goes-on-for-too-long feasting scenes make you uncomfortable? Personally I watched it twice (once long ago and another time to accompany a friend through this... strange journey) and both times I disliked it. Not saying that means someone else can't like it (I still think it's very weird but you do you) :") I don't care what people like or don't like. I'm merely curious.
I don't remember
Those are like... the most disturbing/memorable scenes in the anime. If you don't remember, how can you say you liked it?
Well, anyways. I'm just wowed by the fact that someone likes the anime. I can understand liking the manga (I read a little bit. It was definitely better) but it's a surprise someone likes the anime.
As long as there are at least a couple of people who enjoyed it, it was worth making.
You not liking something doesn't mean it should have never been made. Only that you didn't like it.
Personally, I hate Konosuba, for example. I think it's garbage. But even so I don't wish for it to never have been made.
Agreed just saying Pupa is incest literally sibling x sibling and not liking is great do you enjoy incest bro idc if you think something like naruto is trash I think animes like that deserves love its just weird animes like YBC Pupa and Boku No Pico that need to go
Once again, what you consider weird, others may like. Especially since Pupa here is a psychological horror and is meant to be disturbing. This here is another great example of a horror that a lot of people will hate, because it will make them uncomfortable with its themes, but that's kinda the point of horror...
got blocked by irrational fear.
we're on the same boat. I really feel like this feature is being abused. What's the point of a forum if someone presents their opinion but is not willing to hear someone else's opinion on the same matter when both sides are being respectful?
Meh. As long as they don't start banning people for having different opinions, it's not a big deal.
I don't think blocking someone, if for whatever reason you don't want to hear from them, is necessarily abusing the feature. More like using as intended =)
While in this context, I don't necessarily have a problem or any issue with Pineapplesic blocking me, but there are scenarios where this exact same situation can lead to abuse.
Just a few months back, I had a difference in opinion with a user on this site, and he blocked me, but later I was not able to comment on the most popular forum games (not one, but many of them) because this user was the op for all of them. It also happened for the release discussions of two series airing last season.
ones the actually fucking suck and are completely disgusting
Boku no Pico (THAT GROSS PICO THING)
Pupa
YarichinBitchbu (YBC)
Chika Gentou Gekiga Shoujo Tsubaki that poor child got r @ ped by those disgusting clowns
Dragon Ball - Generic shounen fight without detail or quality, yet somehow became mainstream enough to lead the market into this boring direction.
Tokyo Ghoul - Do i really have to explain? It's a phase. A bad phase, and the best you can do is to never get into it.
AoT - Showed to the industry how you can sell generic plot with drama and good graphics. Kudos to Demon Slayer, which is better by the way, but has been born by this very same mentality produced by AoT.
Almost every romcom - With the exception of shows like HoriMiya or Kaibutsu, maybe Oregairu if you count it as a romcom (i do not, cause it isn't. Oregairu is the definition of coming of age, and for god's sake, stop adding the comedy tag to everything what contains comedy, cause the two are not the same thing) this genre is the best at showing off how you can write never ending 400 chapter long shames with the power of plothole eraser & restart button, as known as Comedy, to see a single kiss in the end of it. It's even worse when you pair it up with drama.
NTR and the cult it raised - Just post "i want Hitler as my fav" instead of this thing, cause yes, it's better, and at least it's funny to a certain point.
KonoSuba - I got actual brain damage and mental issue from this thing. If you think this is funny, then simply get help.
Redo of Healer - Ctrl C+V the NTR Explanation
UB as a whole - Ctrl C+V the NTR Explanation
FMA Brotherhood - One of the ultimate failures of the anime industry. Globally showing off the fact that a generic shounen fight anime with a somewhat well written plot outperforms a unique, dark, adult, psychological, character and plot centered at the same time, grotesque masterpiece. Yes, i'm talking about the first, half original adaptation of the show, cause it's in fact miles ahead of it's successor.
This was the moment when the anime fandom has been failed in my eyes the most.
I could mention SAO if i wanted, but i will not, cause it's way better than any of these above. I can't judge SAO for the start of the Isekai age either, cause 99% of these shows are in fact copy pasting Mushoku Tensei: The best isekai ever made, and not SAO.
Motherfucker searched “Top 10 Best Anime” and wrote this.
Thanks for the intellectual response tho.
As it shows, there isn't anything really worthy you can say, this is why you wrote this thing. Cause you cant critize a single thing in a logical way, but the truth you just read hurts you enough that you had to say something, even if it's worth nothing.
It doesn’t hurt me, none of those anime are in my top ten, I dislike some of these anime like Tokyo Ghoul and KonoSuba.
I replied because you are being another pretentious person that always appears in these types of forums.
If being pretentious and being constructive are the same thing to you, then sure, go ahead dude.
Well, you see, you called Dragon Ball generic, this already speaks for itself.
wait did you say aot is generic while demon slayer is much better than the 'generic' aot?
I've finally seen everything
Yes, Demon Slayer is a better representation of selling generic stuff with drama and good graphics than AoT is. Hopefully you isn't just rage but also trying to understand what did you just read. lmao.
bro this guy definitely has some sort of mental illness. He's mistaking animation for plot.
You hopefully realized that this whole misunderstood shame is all about:
AoT is a generic show sold by drama and good visuals
Demon Slayer is considered as better by me AT being sold by drama and good visuals, cause it's the same recipe with even more from every ingredient in it.
In short, an even more pathetic, a.k.a better example of AoT's existence and success in the market.
I didn't said a single word about which title is better as a show.
You guys really should get help.
AoT is a generic show sold by drama and good visuals
I thought the whole appeal was that its not like other anime
If you want my take on this topic, then i would say AoT is one of the least "anime" animes ever made, this is why it's so popular in the West, like US and EU.
AOT is just like every single generic mainstream post apocalyptic survival series or movie ever made. This show is the thing what people of the west wanna see made by Japan.
It does not include any real anime stuff like moe, fan service, really Japanese style personalities, depth in story.
AoT is an anime for people who don't like anime, for the same people who think Ecchi is made by devil and think every JP stuff i wrote above is cringe. In short, an anime for normies or at least half normies. You know, the kind of show you can watch as a teen without fearing from when your mom comes in to your room, that's why they think it's pog, an edgy good looking show you can flex with without being treated like a perv nerd jp fan kiddo in mid school. It's like a B category action movie. I think i had more fun watching The Revenant than watching the whole AoT series, and yes, i didn't felt like i'm watching an anime, like not at all.
Besides agreeing or disagreeing with your takes on all of these shows, personally I'd say they still deserve to exist because all of the ones you mentioned are incredibly popular, thus having an impact on not only the anime industry but on tropes and genres themselves. Furthermore, incredibly popularised shows such as FMAB, Dragon Ball, AoT, and TG have started discourse about topics that extend past the piece of media itself, which I would say is one of the main purposes of creative work.
Well, admittedly the question of this thread could be answered with something similar to what I've said.
Being popular requires being empty. The more deep and more complex you are, not to mention the more niche you are, the less popular you gonna be, cause then less people gonna be able to sync with the mindset of your product.
When people like myself saying that these shows shouldn't be exists then we also desire a different mindset in the market. Even if you would delete all of these shows above, without changing the people's mindset, very similar shows would come up to the top, at that certain time stage at least, because mindset is changing, slowly.
What people refer to as good in present and what they did ten years ago is not the same. If DB was never a thing and you would try to come up with it today, it's effect would be very different. And the same goes on with such shows like Ga-Rei: Zero as well. It would be way more popular today.
Being surprised by why a niche thing like Zaregoto or D4DJ for example isn't being popular is like being surprised why a Yuri product can't be as popular as a regular romance product. Cause even if it's way better, less people can sync and resonate with it.
However, we finally came to the point, or at least slowly coming to the point when people in general want more detail, more complex plot with personal feelings and a little bit more darkness.
Popularity always points to the mid quality in the enthusiast's eyes, if dark fantasy is the main stuff then these hardcore fans will want something even more grotesque what they gonna refer to as better.
This is the reason why most of the real hardcore anime fan's fav list is filled with 65-75% main scored shows, cause they are niche, so many people don't like them, but that niche thing is the very reason why that specific niche person will like it more than everything else. Because from a certain point, it's way better than the competition.
I not gonna say sorry for an enthusiast based opinion on a forum which asked for my take on the topic.
gosh damn you made an whole essay
@Pineapplesio I like to discuss things. My fav Youtube channel is Josh Strife Hayes tho. The problem is it seems like there aren't many people who worth to discuss with, @nomme seems like the first one so far.
But, i'm 32 so it can't be a surprise, most of people who read this forum are around half of my age or even less, so they either don't understand what i'm talking about and/ or why, or they simply have very different takes on things and they didn't realized yet that reading something online can't be considered as a personal atk against their waifus and husbandos or against their favorite edgy shows. xD
well almost every thing you said is true, but you cant change peoples minds if you ereased db they will praise another equal generic battle shonen, db were published alongside yyh and while the awards and the credits were given to yyh by the magazines (they thought as yyh as the perfect shonen) and other mangakas, db were still more popular worldwide. if you erased db they will surley look for another generic one rather than pick yyh ( sames goes with hxh people will prefer a naruto rather than hxh) so the industry will make more generic shows
About aot i cant agree, the characters,, their problems,the way they fix them, etc. might be generic and with a bad execution but the original idea wasnt bad( but i would erased it)
konosuba is subjetive i wouldnt erased it.
And i totaly agree about FMAB, this would be the right answer to the threads cuestion, since there is a way better version with better characters ( specially roy mustang, alphonse and dante), with better homounculus system, better toka koka concept, phylosophy, etc.
To begin with, everything everyone writes down at topics like these, including myself, is considered subjective by me, because it is.
If you have to decide between good and bad, if you have to review or even just overview something then that topic is already subjective, just like this two definition "good" and "bad", and must be considered and treated as an opinion.
About this mentality, i wrote a comment above as a response to "nomme" about this topic, so i would write something very similar for you as an answer.
Of course that is your opinon same as what i wrote is mine and every opinion is subjective, the deal with poiting out that the konosuba case is subjective wasnt meaning to express that the other statments werent subjective but to bring out that the others follows a logical line of thinking (your logic), like NTR damage society, Db lead the maket to a boring direction, FMAB is worse than the original so there is no use in a generic shonen version of it,etc. but with konosuba the line of thinking is something like "i dont find it funny so it shouldnt exist" so thats the only one i can not agree with, as comedy is based on your humor and the same joke that you despised one day maybe you would find it funny with other circustances( as how your day were, how stressed you are, etc.) ( althought i dont agree i respect your opinion and same as i agree in almost every else there are lots of people that thinks the same as you)
kara no kyoukai and zeroth maria fr fr
elitist fans everywhere like the guy above @Unlimited
Brothers Conflict
Kiss Him Not Me
i think these are pretty self explanatory
@RonyOnAni 90% of Shonen wouldn't even exist without DB
(I tried replying to your comment but the site keeps glitching)
the thread is probably so big with replies because I keep fighting people so sorry @NurAhmad
Breaths in
Jujutsu Kaisen
DC Da Capo
Fatestay night Unlimited Blade Works
Futari wa Precure Max Heart
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Berserk
Kiznaiver
Bakemonogatari
Ange Vierge
And probably could be added more stuff if I wanted to sour my day off
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Sotsu
Make an ova instead and don t turn Satoko into a garbage character