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[Spoilers] Attack on Titan Final Season Part 2 - Episode 12
What did you think of the episode?
What was your favorite scene or moment?
Episode was amazing, it reminded me why of I loved Eren so much, Mappa did a great job adapting it. Although I really wished that this season ended with chapter 131 instead of 130 as it was one of the best chapters Isayama had ever written and it would make anime onlies love Eren even more.
yea I see what you mean, i guess they had to leave some of the good stuff for the next season
Good episode but how are we supposed to take mikasa seriously when she just brutally murdered her comrades and friends an episode ago? And the flashback of Eren saying just so his friends could survive feels like they're trying to give the ending some logic because that never happened until 139.
The flashback actually was in 130 but it still makes no sense how he went from "Securing Eldia's future" to "For my Friends" in a flashback that came later
MAPPA literally made everything so damn GOOD in this episode. The both fun and emotional weight of chapter 123 still hit me, and the last 5 minutes of the episode was out of this world. Seeing the founding titan fully animated with Eren's voiceover was chilling. Good work on this part of Attack on Titan, can't wait to see how MAPPA adapts the last chapters!
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Manga Readers,
Any idea on whether , we are getting an anime original ending?
I dont think so right?Nope, It's definitely not happening. Honestly just read AnR at this point
honestly
AnR is abysmal lol why would u even recommend that
No it’s unlikely because the manga ending is the story Isayama wanted to tell and a different ending would be contradictory to previous elements and themes, so the most I can see happening is the ending being fleshed out and explained and any inconsistencies being removed.
His ending is contradictory. The narrative he led was survival for the people of Paradis any means necessary. Shinzo wo sasageo, to die for the greater good of paradis.
Did you miss the whole section of 124-138? Did you miss how the narrative criticises Eren and the Yeagerists’ actions and how the entire story is about how every time Eren reaches his goal he only sees more barriers in the way of his freedom, and how the inevitable failure of the rumbling just led to more complexities and issues?
Attack on Titan was never about how you should do whatever you can to save your people, it was always slowly constructing the moral dilemma between sacrificing one’s own people or the entire world, and how Eren’s choice to sacrifice the rest of the world for a glimpse of idealistic freedom that would never truly last was wrong.
Even Shinzou wo Sasageyo became twisted so that it stopped being “give your hearts so that humanity can flourish in the future” and it became “give your hearts so Paradis can flourish in the future”. At the start, Paradis was all that the scouts knew of the world, but if those who gave their lives in Shiganshina and before then knew that the world was full of ordinary people, some allies and some simply average people misled by propaganda, then they wouldn’t make the same choices that the Yeagerists do.
The ending is not contradictory, you just ignored all of the aspects that disagreed with your opinion.
Narrative criticizes? Yeah I've read those chapters when isayama started writing bullshit suddenly changing his narrative from "survival of paradis" to "noooooo war bad" now we'll have the cringevengers assemble, brutally murder the yeagerists, their former friends all in the name of "justice". If that isn't the most hypocritical thing in anime then idk what is.
Attack on Titan was never about how you should do whatever you can to save your people, it was always slowly constructing the moral dilemma between sacrificing one’s own people or the entire world>
Did we even read/watch the same series?
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I’m not sure we did watch the same series tbh from what you’re saying.
To use your same logic, isn’t crushing people by the walls falling down in the rumbling just as hypocritical? Eren is killing his own people in order to save them.
I’d like to see why you think Attack on Titan was all about the survival of Paradis above everything else because I do not see how that was ever the point after Marley and the outside world was introduced. If it was about survival and nationalism for Paradis and killing everyone else then why is most of that arc showing that the people outside the walls aren’t devils, if the whole point was just to say “fuck you you should die because Paradis is more important than billions of people in the whole world”?
If you rewatch the series, you’ll see plenty of moments hinting at the upcoming moral dilemma of the rumbling, such as the royal family’s choice in season 3, Erwin giving up on his dream for the future of humanity and choosing between Armin and Erwin.
Attack on Titan spent several episodes and even arcs showing the horrors of war, so it has always presented war as bad, but I think what you mean is that it suddenly became about genocide being bad, but when was genocide ever considered good in AoT? I would understand that criticism if the whole beginning of the series was about Armin and co. committing genocide and saying it’s cool, but that’s not the case. Jean’s entire character in the later chapters is about how he cannot sit back and reap the rewards he knows come from bloodshed on a global scale, Armin committed a genocide on the harbour with his Titan and that changes his view and changes him to a character experiencing guilt from that as well as survivor’s guilt from knowing Erwin should have been chosen instead of him, and he wants to make a choice that is right without being an emotional decision caused by attachment to the people of Paradis.
Yes it’s rushed, but there’s nothing contradictory about any of the characters’ choices and the direction of the story late on.
aghh so much Levi content, love it<33
Everything was amazing, especially animations. Gonna wait for The Finalist Final Season.
peak fiction
Top notch episode, animation, execution, voice acting, EVERYTHING was great!
My fav scene:
Welp all that's left is to wait til next year for "Attack on Titan Final Season We Mean It This Time"
the final season part: trust me bro
Attack on titan: End of evangelion 2.0
illusory wall ahead
EREN YEAGERRRRRRR
I always have the opposite opinion to these forums. I liked the latest episode, stellar visuals, the animation was a bit stiff but the stills had amazing art. I appreciate that the episode is sort of returning to the character roots like in the WIT AOT days, but just IMO. I thought this episode felt off, pacing and vibe. Coming off of an action packed ep 11 to this feels strange. It feels like it was trying to appease the action fans in ep 11 and story fans in ep 12.
Defo fun but felt off imo.
My favourite scene? When the clown thought Levi was a child and offered him candy. He's just, so short LMAO. The best episode of the season and one of my favourite chapters from the manga. And honestly, why can't Eren just stfu for once and have some ice cream? At least enjoy civilisation before your narrow-minded ass tries to destroy it.
Honestly I'm very surprised that there's so many people saying they loved it, because in my case it was different, not saying it was a bad episode or anything but I don't feel like it was a good moment for a flashback, ending the season right there instead of making me hyped to see the end just made me more confused, Eren reasons to do everything that he's doing are still unknown overall and I feel like I have more questions to answers, and now gotta wait another year to know more.
It’s better than when it was immediately after the rumbling began in the manga
this season is awkward. It had both the best episodes and the worst episodes in the entire run of the anime. This last one was one of the better ones, next ep should be great too and then we will get to the ultimate shitshow.
Wasn't so sure if starting with a flashback was the best decision for the final episode but then I realized it was something I really wanted to see, that missing part between the sea shore scene and the attack to Marley, I enjoyed seeing precious Sasha once again, the reaction of her, Connie and Hange to the new world, specially to the car, was so hilarious, and the reaction to the food was so cute, seeing Mikasa smile that way was specially wholesome.
For a moment I thought the robbery part was kinda unnecessary, since it make it clear the fact that marleyans are racist and xenophobic, not only with Paradis but with the whole world, and that was something that was clear long before this flashback, but then I realized the importance of meeting and saving that child, to put on the table the fact that Eren will kill people that he personally doesn't hate or thing they deserve to die, people like him, hated for his very existence, people whom he can relate, and yet that's not enough to not activate the rumbling, it's sad, it put a heavy weight in his soul, but to him the rumbling it's a necessary evil, above all possible sentimentalism for outsiders of the island.
And my favorite part, the arrival of the rumbling, I looooooved how they put the raw power of the colossal titans in perspective, showing that even the largest cannons in the world are no match for the rumbling, I absolutely loved the horror in the faces of the humans when they realized how screwed they were, and yet, they kept trying, I loved how the water steam was enough to vaporize their flesh and flip their ships, making me realize how strong the heat from all the colossals combined was, I specially enjoyed the fear in the faces of the marleyans in land, and their pathetic, yet totally understandable attempts to run for their lives knowing damn well they're trying to leave behind a fucking titan, as someone who thinks humans are a cancer for this or any other planet, I enjoyed that whole final scene, how a massive force, how TRUE power reminds them of their place in this universe, a friendly reminder that they're nothing, so they have no right to be that convinced of their false superiority, but, as a human myself, it was horrible to put me in the shoes of those innocent people who doesn't know why they're being killed, the mixed feelings was the best experience I ever had in a very long time.
In the words of Parasyte, the world doesn't give a shit about humans. Cease your nihilistic sophistry, the world is a beautiful as it is cruel and filthy. And it is only humans that know which is either or. Not the earth, nor the trees, nor the rivers and streams. All is rightfully subject to our whim as we are to the uncaring Earths.
I think what's great about AoT is that is it is Great. It can be a bit clunky here and there considering, but overall the narrative is one that spreads across the world, and considers fundamental truths.
