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Cliches you hate that nobody else talks about?
Here are a few of mine.
-Cheek talking. When you see a character's profile, and she talks, her mouth will be moving in the center of her cheek, with a connected stretch of flesh under her nose.
-Exposition 101: What little time a character spends in class, the lesson will be lore and worldbuilding, often preceeded by some variation of 'as you know.'
-Every male protagonist has the same two friends. A childhood friend who's hopelessly in love with him, and a girl-crazy loser.
-The same damn villains. Most anime villains are either cold and emotionless chads with long white hair, or a psycho effeminate clown. Basically either Sephiroth or Kefka, or both.
- Starting off a plot with a resurrection
- Making your plot an isekai for no good reason
- HAVING A PLOT THATS ACTION FOCUSED WHERE MANY CHARACTERS SHOULD DIE BUT NOBODY DIES BECAUSE PLOT CONVENIENCE
- Lack of screen time for characters (Again, if you killed them off this wouldn't be an issue, NARUTO)
HAVING A PLOT THATS ACTION FOCUSED WHERE MANY CHARACTERS SHOULD DIE BUT NOBODY DIES BECAUSE PLOT CONVENIENCE
I was gonna say this one, but you beat me to it... so I'll just say "this". I can't stand it, it ruins otherwise decent stories IMO. It's not just dying too though, sometimes the way protagonists accomplish their goal is just so insanely unrealistic that you lose me.
oversized boobs
I agree, sometimes it's just annoying.
On a similar note, ecchi anime with tons of nudity where you're not allowed to see any nipples. I will never understand what people get out of these shows. Kiss X Sis, Chivalry of a Failed Knight, the Monogatari series... It's an adult-oriented show, who are you trying to protect?
they just wanna do as much as they can without going past a certain line to where its considered hentai
And yet, plenty of shows featuring exposed nips are NOT hentai. Strike Witches is not hentai. High School DXD is not hentai. Ranma 1/2 is not hentai.
well i havnt seen any of those shows. other then berserk which does show nips ig
i think its because it gets censored when it goes on channels n stuff idk
You missed the point of Monogatari series if you think it's an "ecchi anime with tons of nudity where you're not allowed to see any nipples".
Am I wrong though? Was that not factual?
depends...................................if it's an obtrusive element like say a serious Detective Murder Mystery like Monster than yeah
but if it's something like Shokugeki no Souma than nah
their are some gray zones where it's not so clear and what one person see's as obtrusive another person see's as not being obtrusive an example is Yoko from TTGL
When there's a shy heroine or just normally reserved girl, and then a girl starts groping her or something else, and calls it "getting to know each other better" or something like that.
I wouldn't know if this is often talked about, though.
I... I don't think I've ever seen or even heard of that before so I think that fits the thread brief.
When there's that one girl in the trio with two guys and she falls in love with one or she's absolutely useless and weak. I've seen a few of these now.
sexual assault, especially when used to empower a male character
I sincerely hope I never read the stuff you've had the displeasure of reading
You have Steins;Gate in your favorites. Okarin sexually assaults Rukako (gropes her genitals and chest) and it is played for laughs.
edit: i misremembered. it's not played for laughs, but it is pretty much just dismissed. it's early in ep 10
You know what, that's a fair point. I forgot about that part, and I guess I never considered just how horrible it really was. I just thought it was part of the downward spiral of Okabe's mental state and also I was way too busy being mad at the plot for unironically implying that making Ruka's mom eat different shit actually changed him into a her.
In my defense, I don't particularly like the scene or find it exciting or anything. I don't want to really dismiss it but I think that it's just a way for the authors to get the viewer actually understanding and confirming the results of Ruka's text.
Though I will say there are better ways to do it.Okabe could have just asked Ruka their gender. Groping in that situation wasn't just monstrously inappropriate, it was impossibly stupid.
There's honestly plenty
- Cindirella plot aka poor x rich, it's not always terrible but most of the time the rich comes from a cold family and they're supposed to take on the buisness even though they hate it. Literally so repeatable and booring. (Not to mention the poor one usually is a hard working invidual who works for their family and loves them unconditionally)
- Animes where the parents die... Seems like a stupid thing to hate buut most of the time it's the same boring shit accident because the writer can't write adults
- Shy girl with big boobs who's embarrassed 100% of the time
- Romance anime with death tragedies. They're all pretty much the same - two people fall in love and then one of them dies from an illness
- Villains/Anti heros who do something 'for fun' like damn okay no creativity?
- Time skip where mc goes from weak to powerful as fuck. Why... just why can't they show the progress...
- Fantasy/Sci-fi where they don't explain how certain elements came to the real world. For example when the action takes place on Earth but suddenly demons appear, and it's never explained why...
- Characters who accept their death... I wish there was more characters that actually feared death and didn't accept it
- When the author is too much of a pussy to kill important characters, so they only kill side ones
- Also when character who supposedly died comes back to live
10.
Also see: The character that gets knocked down, is a bloody mess, can't fight, and yet somehow manages to stand up and be miraculously stronger than before. Wish I got a powerup every time I scraped my knee.
I kind of agree with all of these except 4 because I'm a total pussy and that shit gets to me every single time no matter how accurately I can predict it.
Villains/Anti heros who do something 'for fun'
What’s wrong with this? Obviously there’s other factors butSome ppl are just straight up diabolical
Time skip where mc goes from weak to powerful as fuck. Why... just why can't they show the progress...
the inverse of this is showing it yet also being really goddamm brief with training so it doesn't feel earned
To me this happens with Bam in Tower of God, they just show briefly the training he goes through and just gets suddenly op with not much explanation
oh yeah I remember that happened after like the betrayal
he gets as long hair joins an organization called FUG which sounds just hilarious on paper and he turns into a stoic badass whose distrustful of everyone
I was thinking of Demon Slayer and how ridiculous it felt knowing Tanjiro trains for like 3 months or something and boom pah he's a player god I really didn't enjoy early Demon Slayer it felt like the author was trying to rush past a lot of emotional buildups yet at the same time tried to cash in on some of those emotional moments like Tanjiro seeing Nezuko again when it's been like....what 3 chapters feels like narrative dissonance where it doesn't feel what the story is telling me so the emotional moment just feels like a flop
Fantasy/Sci-fi where they don't explain how certain elements came to the real world. For example when the action takes place on Earth but suddenly demons appear, and it's never explained why...
lol this feels like a specific jab at Demon City Shinjuku
I will say I agree with this but only to a point because past that it becomes gratuitous and not integral to the story
I'm not sure if this is the name of it, breast envy?
they put the flat chested girl next to the big breasted girl then the flat one gets upset or something and that's the joke
On the contrary, when they utilize it well, it's an incredible comedy subplotline for one of the characters
Yeah actually some don't feel envy and they can maybe for once bond over back pain!
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Although didn't Sanji improve just slightly with Black Maria? In the anime, they showed the heart eyes I think, but in the manga he flat out refused her.
Dunno how many people already complained about this, aside from Cr1tikal and boys from Trash Taste Podcast, but having teenagers or children as main characters for absolutely no reason other than "relating to the reader/viewer, cuz shonen". I'm talking about the plots, where they could be adults and nothing would change. Some of those characters don't even act accurately for their age
I mean Kaiju no.8 literally has a dude in his 30's
I think a lot of the times the reason for such a young age tends to be for expositional purposes because of the fact that the main character is naive and innocent he needs to be explained stuff about the world so it's more logical in a writing sense and in a way I suppose it justifies exposition
I mean I literally remember all the times Gon would just ask questions about the world because he was like this kid from an isolated island and I actually really liked that since it felt like Togashi used that for things that weren't just narrative exposition but other stuff like Gon asking about the conning techniques which in turn leads to him outmaneuvering an antagonist later cause of it
This is kinda contradictory but k
Can you elaborate?
I'm talking about the plots, where they could be adults and nothing would change.
If nothing would change then why change it at all. If the cast was purely adults you could also make the argument of "they could be kids and nothing would change." Pretty much every anime starring a primarily young cast requires that they be young , same thing with a primarily adult cast.
Pretty much every anime starring a primarily young cast requires that they be young.
Believe me. There are some exceptions to your rule.
For example, Giorno Giovanna from Jojo Part 5. The guy looks like 20yo, acts incredibily mature, doesn't go to school, is always thrown into supernatural, life-threatening shit throught the story, and he's only 15. Would it hurt Araki to just add him 3 more years to his age?
Or Dr. Stone. I don't really think Senku needs to be a teenager, while being 200 IQ genius at the same time, especially when we see him and Taiju in school for like first few minutes before the entire world gets petrified. I get that some people find some charm in it, like he's the anime version of Jimmy Neutron, but it's still pretty unnecessary to the plot progression, or how Senku acts.
I have some other titles in mind and already heard multiple times about Tokyo Revengers and highly intelligent elementary kid from Erased, but I kinda get your point. There are many shows with young MC/cast, where it works because of setting, themes, how accurately the character acts etc. But I still think there are also some, where it's pointless, sometimes even jarring when now thinking about it.
big boob braindead chicks with no personality in literally every anime ever
Underage fanservice.
I don't mind about fanservice, but at least make the girl 18 years old.I feel like this one gets mentioned a lot but imma say it anyway
When the guy trips over and either his hand or his face lands on the girls chest, like seriously?
Or a trip leading to an accidental kiss that lands perfectly, somehow not knocking out the teeth of both parties.
The MC's "loser" best friend, y'know that one guy who's always the butt of all jokes and might receive a terribly-executed character development (if he had one, that is)
I swear, this is a mainstay in a lot of Japanese media in general (especially VNs), but anime are in no way innocent of this
taking a good romance anime and forcing some dumb gimmick into it
examples:
Shikimori-san - MC has unrealistically bad luck
Osamake - every girls a childhood friend
Girlfriend, Girlfriend - 2 timing for the lols
etc, etc.
I wouldn't say I necessarily hate it, but weak and shy women are too prevalent in anime imo. I want to see more confident, strong, and/or badass women like Hizuru, Maki, and Nobara.
Characters that know and could explain everything but wont because "It's too early to tell you" or "You'll understand it eventually"
Characters that constantly annoy, bully or harass others and get away with it because their is no greater joy than hanging out with an unbearable asshole that causes nothing but trouble.
A trope that frequently occurs in trashy isekai/fantasy anime I despise is when the main character decides/is forced to attend a "magic school." This happens way too often, and typically the main character has no reason to attend as the they are usually already overpowered. It serves no purpose and instantly kills any chances of the plot going anywhere, as now the story is forever stuck in a school setting. This trope is ends up producing many more clichés as well, some of my least favorites being:
The main character blowing away the entrance exam
The main character being stronger than the teachers(leading to no growth in the characters abilities/mindset)
Twin love interests(often red/pink and light blue haired)
Snarky rich dude who gets beaten by mc(typically beaten in the entrance exam), only to make a deal with a demon to get more power to then beat the main characterAnyways, I should stop reading isekai's.
Omg I hate when siblings turn out to not be biological so suddenly one of them is somewhat sexually interested in another...
(I could name a manga with that trope buut that would be a spoiler)
Cry baby girls ( mostly in shouen anime)
There are very less shounen girls who are like powerful and have some sense
When there's a bath scene with the female characters and they say things like "omggg your boobs are so big and soft!!"
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Poorly written meta humor- Doing some dumb trope, then saying "This feels like a situation from an X genre manga", then playing it the exact same way the trope is usually used, feels fucking pointless.
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Substance-less complexity- Making your story look deep and confusing, when in reality its just badly written.
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Shoehorning romance last minute- There are multiple series that ended on an extremely stupid note simply because they forced a romance sub-plot at the very last minute. Its especially bad when said character isn't shown to be romantically interested in anyone up till that point.
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Bringing back dead characters for the sake of a happy ending
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