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[Spoilers] Fire Force Season 3 Part 2 - Episode 11 Discussion
Good ep
Love how they showed Haumea and her process of bearing the crown till now.
Rest in piss bozos 😭
Haumea is such a troll, lol.
RIP Obi
RIP the world
The most elite crashout is here.
Arthur??
Drawings look amazing. Tho, I question how they'll pace this next ep. Praying the staff pulls thru.
This ep adapted ch 287-291.
9/10
when this shit gon end? i'm deadass
Next 2 eps so on April 3rd.
i am genuinely surprised how shit this show gets after every episode. 1/10 i wish i could give it a lower rating. i am not dropping it just so i can watch it crash and burn..
you probably have 0 clue what's happening let's be real
hey just say you are in denial. i have been watching since season 1 first premiered. Season 3 part 2 is ass. you don't like my opinion? too bad. go touch grass.
It's comments like these that I genuinely wish Anilist had downvotes for.
Cool, you aren't enjoying it. Why do you need to broadcast to the world that you aren't enjoying a show you are choosing to watch? This hasn't been a bad season. For an adaptation, Fire Force has gotten a genuinely good and faithful adaptation.
The just constant doomer talk on every single episode thread of every anime after the first 5-6 of a season have started to really annoy me. Like we need to be serious here. There is nothing this anime could do at this point in time that turns it into a 1/10. This is genuinely the highest rated season of Fire Force across the average users of this site.
This is genuinely the highest rated season of Fire Force across the average users of this site.
What?
You watched anime for over 100 days and still don't know how ratings work?!The more Seasons a show will have then the less people will watch the finale because with time more and more people will drop the show.
So if an anime doesn't do something really bad then the more seasons will have then the higher the score of the seasons will have...because someone that it's still watching Season 3 of a show will be more likely to like it than someone who dropped after the first Tamaki "fan-service" scene.So the last season having slightly higher score than the rest is a non-argument.
If you look at every Season by "Popularity":
- Season 1 --------- 439721
- Season 2 --------- 275225
- Season 3 --------- 107745
- Season 3 Part 2 - 62169 (so far)
And if you look at the "Favorites":
- Season 1 ------------ 12561
- Season 2 ------------- 5870
- Season 3 ------------- 1908
- Season 3 Part 2 ---- 1103 (so far)
See...non-argument.
MHA:
Season 1: 77% - 808k
Season 2: 80% - 612k
Season 3: 79% - 560k
Season 4: 79% - 495k
Season 5: 73% - 381k
Season 6: 82% - 238k
Season 7: 82% - 154k
Season 8: 87% - 100kAOT:
Season 1: 85% - 964k
Season 2: 85% - 677k
Season 3: 86% - 633k
Season 3p2: 90% - 563k
Season 4: 87% - 591k
Season 4p2: 86% - 396k
Season 4p3: 87% - 219k
Season 4p4: 87% - 149kWe can look at MHA and compare that to community sentiment, and it very accurately tracks how people felt about the seasons. Likewise, I would absolutely argue that AOT is pretty damn accurate to community sentiment.
You will always see a later season have LESS viewership than an earlier one, not necessarily because people dropped off. But because people have had more time to watch it. Especially with the current Fire Force season being still airing, it is absolutely expected to have less viewership, and I would say it is getting a faster viewership RATE than season 3 did considering it hit 62k before the season even finished.
I will also note, and I don't know what exactly that value is on Anilist specifically, with enough samples, you can assume lower and lower error bars. I would make a solid wager that the AVERAGE VIEWER rating can absolutely be within a .5% error bar +/- with over 50k viewers.
I understand you are extremely disappointed with this season, I disagree, but you are absolutely arguing in poor statistical faith. I can definitely say as someone that has watched all of the seasons and read the manga, this season has absolutely been 2nd or 3rd best season of Fire Force.
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this season has absolutely been 2nd or 3rd best season of Fire Force.
Uhhhh...
So even you agree that this is very close to being the worst season of Fire Force.
Maybe you count Season 3 Part 2 as the 4th Season of Fire Force...but even then it's like you are saying that "-This 10th season of this show is the 8th or 9th best season of this show."
I'm sorry but maybe I don't know enough english to understand what are you trying to say.
This Season of Fire Force was...and I don't remember if I already said/write it here before...It's like what the 2021 "The Matrix" movie was for the "The Matrix" Trilogy.
Some meta nonsense
It's comments like these that I genuinely wish Anilist had downvotes for
And then all the criticism would just drown, and create a bubble for each anime. It's just one hate/stupid comment, but it still represents a small portion of the people who are watching, so it has room in this discussion thread. I've seen on reddit how the up-vote system ends up just being a way to suppress everyone with a different opinion. If there's really a bad comment, we can just report it and get it removed, this was just someone expressing how they feel, and it's fine. I understand the anger though, quite annoying to read these. On the other side, there should really be a pinning system for threads, so people can find what they are looking for way faster.
My suggestion? Stop putting these comments in the spotlight and dragging them further and further with futile attempts to make them understand that they are wrong.
The problem is that people that dislike something are infinitely more likely to voice their criticism. Someone that likes a show is 90% of the time just going to watch it, enjoy it, and move on. Someone that didn't like something, is going to say it was shit and tell everyone it was shit half the time.
I'm sorry, but when I can see the average viewer likes a series based on it having a >70% viewer rating, but then go into every episode discussion and 70% of the comments are the same 4 people calling the show garbage. I think there should probably be a way to see "people don't agree with this person"
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is going to say it was shit and tell everyone it was shit half the time
Who are they gonna say it to? The people who have watched the episode and are here to talk about it and have their set opinion? I don't see harm.
The problem is that people that dislike something are infinitely more likely to voice their criticism
Yah, because that's kinda of the point, and in this case, with fire force, the plot and goals have changed a lot in many ways, there's also new arcs that start and end, new plots are intruduced, etc etc, so to see more and more people complain, maybe that's simply because at the current state the anime is just different or even worse for some people.
It's true that people are more motivated to talk bad, rather than good but that's just how it's, and you're lucky here on anilist people are awesome and that does not happen so often, but if you want to make it better, stop giving them attention, learn to ignore, your words will not change how they think most of the time.
4 people calling the show garbage
What's your definition of calling something garbage? Because I haven't seen that, just people annoyed at the state of the anime, which, although I don't mind it, I can totally see how people hate it, let them be, or block them, I bet most of them exagerate things because they know they can get a reaction from people like you, they are basically doing to you what Haumea did to shinra this episode, don't let them.
With an up-vote system, we would all just stroke each other's ego and ignore all the flaws, which we probably don't even see, It's not a solution, and honestly, if we consider it, I don't think enough people interact with these discussion threads to make it fair, and If you think about it, we already have a non invasive up-vote system, people with less "hearts" or "likes" are obviously not on the common side, the only difference is that they don't get hidden.
First time writing a discussion post, mostly because I feel like I really want to enjoy what I'm being served. The visuals and direction are fantastic, aside from a few things that I'm not quite sure how I feel about yet. Mostly Obi's death and the general structure of the conversation between Sho, Shinra and Haumea. I like the approach of his flame being that easy to stoke out since at the end of the day he is just a guy, but the entire main plot of saving Obi in season 3 part 1 feels more like a forced conflict if he was always meant to die (even if he was only used as bait, they still planned on killing him there.) I like all the ideas present, like stacking despair and anger on Shinra until he snaps. At the end of the day he's still human with limits as to what we can endure mentally. As well as the very neat approach as to what the Evangelist represents and is. As always beautiful visuals and style, but as an anime-only watcher, I'm not holding my breath for them to kill every single person in the show like that, but if they do props. Only downside is there should have been much more weight to it than what we got. The pacing is always the issue when it comes to this season, it really could have used the extra padding to give the proper weight to these moments. I want to rate this season more highly but execution is teetering.
Fascinating to have an episode mostly composed of philosophical discussion where nothing was said. Haumea thinks that everyone would be better in death because they won't be afraid anymore (negative utilitarianism) and shinra thinks being alive is good. Which is frankly a deeply boring disagreement as it entirely relies on two incompatible moral postulates.
The back and forth with shinra not wanting to get angry is similar to me. It entirely relies on how much of an adult he is (Not enough I guess) and is pretty boring to watch. Once it becomes obvious the entire outcome is based on his mental there isn't much to think about besides "I hope this guy is mentally strong enough". Maybe I just have a different mindset but when I'm directly informed that thoughts become reality that produces infinite hope. How could you possible fall to despair? Even someone's death doesn't have to be permanent you were just informed anything is possible now, the moon is a guy.
I think this dynamic of him losing himself would've worked a lot better if it was a snap decision instead of something drawn out over ten minutes. It makes it a lot harder to deal with him not thinking things through when he's given so long and direct instruction on what he shouldn't be doing.
The obi scene at the end suffers from similarly strange pacing. Showing charecters almost noticing he's a doppleganger seems rife creating viewer complaints that they should've noticed something. The same is true of the bizarre decision to have tamaki see Doppleganger!obi and say nothing. This season is so compress but it really feels like they were padding for time somehow.
~ How could you possible fall to despair?
~ I'm directly informed that thoughts become reality that produces infinite hopeShinra was seeing red, no rational thoughts were going through his head, that's for sure. Rage defies any logic, it's wild and based on instinct, would Sho not been there, there wouldn't have been anyone there to remind him of what the real objective is, he would've snapped way sooner. Maybe Sho can still bring him to his senses, but I dunno, it seems it's too late now.
This is the core issue with the way they chose to display it for me. They dragged out the scene for long enough that a sudden momentary snap in judgement became less believable. It would've been IMO better feeling to stack a pile of bodies in front of him the second he got there and have him freak out before sho can stop him. The constant back and forth doesn't work for me at all.
Turns out, leaving saving the world in the hands of a teenager with angry issues wasn't a good idea XD. Haumea, where did you learn to make such rage bait? XD
Imagine if this were the last episode, everyone died and that was it XD. Luckily, there are still two episodes left and I have no idea what's going to happen. This season is incredibly unpredictable.
Really loved the part where they kept saying the same thing over and over again. Man, this show earned none of it's emotional beats. Shame they didn't give us a proper adaptation instead of this rushed garbage. Big sad
