some of them even watches anime they know they won't like just to give it a bad rating, to lower their mean score. i also had a friend who planned on lowering his mean score, i suppose by editing his entire watched lists. can someone help explain? does your profile become MORE attractive and aesthetic and trustworthy or something if you have a lower mean score? i don't understand. it kinda makes me feel bad for having a kinda high mean score ;u; does having a high mean score look like you're someone who doesn't score properly? ;u;
Idk maybe people just want to watch bad anime to appreciate good stuff more? I remember watching some dumb stuff and then watching haikyuu, felt like I ascended as an anime watcher lmao
some people think that having a lower score means youre an intellectual who understands anime better than anyone else
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When someone only uses half of the rating scale and uses 5 to rate something as bad, I don't take them seriously.
yes im somewhat a hypocrit
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So you saying all except 10 of the shows you watched are all above average?
Also I don't think it's necessarily about enjoying shows, but more about using the entire rating scale
I mean, I kinda agree with @JustJasper here. Even though I also think it's a bit pointless when people only give 7+ to everything.
I watch stuff I find quite bad sometimes. I'm a Digimon fan, so I try to watch the whole franchise, and for me Digimon Savers was quite bad. There were also a couple movies I've watched and found bad or at least below average.
But on most cases, I'm gonna try to watch anime that actually interests me, so there's a high chance I won't be giving them a poor rating. If I find the anime so bad, I'll probably drop it.
I don't really get why people would spend their time watching dozens of long running anime that they find terrible. If someone gives a poor rating to lots of stuff they watch... Then maybe they should start watching stuff that interest them more instead?
I agree with this and @JustJasper's point. I'm a fan of the decimal system, but in turn I tend to have a high average score. I don't focus on "using the entire rating scale", I like rating anime in comparison to one another. It feels wrong when I give something a 5 but then I notice this actual mediocre anime that I already have is a 5 and then I reconsider and rank above said anime.
Although, I think that when I watch more anime, I'll redo my rating system, since the more anime I watch, the harder it is to compare each and every one with one another and rate them. I'm kinda of a freak.
This is true, neat insight. An interesting side note: in my experience, the people who actually really know what they're talking about don't score their anime at all.
yea i see some who's got like a smile face on their scoring! :O is that normal here?
There are different forms of rating, one of them is the "Three smileys", you can rate a show as :(, :| or :).
It's quite good if you don't want to bother rating with more precision. (You can find the setting at https://anilist.co/settings/lists it's the "scoring system")
I don't want to have a high mean score because it makes it harder to keep a consistant rating scale, and makes the low ratings matter way more than higher ratings do.
I don't watch trash for the purpose of lowering my score though. I just watch whatever looks interesting and a lot of the time it's bad. But I also do intentionally want to watch bad shows because it makes the better shows feel better to watch, plus again I have no clue what will actually be good or bad until I watch it.
I think it's usually that they want to rate more accurately. If you don't only use the upper numbers that gives you a bit more freedom with how you rate. That, and some people are just elitists who think it makes them have "good taste".
elitists x.x maybe my frend is an elitist e~e
I think it's more likely that it's the first one, rating more accurately
perhaps. could also be for the aesthetic e~e
is that how you rate things tho?
Kinda. I go by this system. It uses the whole 1-10 scale so I use lower numbers too but I just place them where they fit, or .5 if between. If it ends up with many high scores then cool, I watched many good stuff. I don't care about intentionally spreading them out as long as they're accurate.
10 - Absolute favourites
9 - Awesome
8 - Great
7 - Good
6 - Decent
5 - Painfully mediocre
4 - Worse than mediocre
3 - Really bad
2 - Garbage
1 - Absolutely horribe
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yes my mean should be around the 7s ;u; and yes i do rarely use the lower numbers. its just that,, the shows i watch aren't THAT bad ;u; so my mean ends up being high,, wc makes me feel kinda bad. idk ;A; and if i were to follow the following rating sys as such:
(10) masterpiece
(9) great
(8) very good
(7) good
(6) fine
(5) average
(4) bad
(3) very bad
(2) horrible
(1) appalling
i rly can't find it in me to rate anything below 5 (unless it is really really bad)
They think they're gonna seem intellectual, logical & connoisseur of anime/manga.
Giving popular shows lower score 'makes' them look like they are different than majority.
I've been trying to raise my mean score for months, but doing anime-related challenges & never dropping an anime keeps it low :/
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Oh, yea, that came out wrong!
I meant some people give popular/big shows lower score additionally with lowering their mean score. And believe me, some people intentionally give popular shows bad ratings, simply because so many people liked it & it just annoys them & they want to be seen as "not-so-simple-minded-to-join-the-rest" person.
For me, I've watched a lot of anime so I feel like it's easier to tell when something is "average" now moreso than before. I also got into the medium when I was really young and I was never exposed to a lot of pop culture because money was a huge issue, to the point that a tv was a big luxury. Anything I watched felt amazing, and even the boring or unenjoyable shows were still pretty good. I also rate on how much I'll enjoy the rewatch, so say if I really like a show because of one character but the rest of it is trash, I'll give it something below a 5 because the actual show wasn't worth it, even though I found that one character enjoyable. Whenever I've changed my ratings, it's mostly been because I want that rating to be more accurate to how I feel about it now in comparison to other things I've watched.
I see it as part of a broader negativity trend I've noticed. It is as if people enjoy not liking stuff and talking about how much they hate something (see the number of threads dedicated to talking about shows/characters you hate, especially like "characters/shows most people love but you hate"). Some people probably feel good by being contrarian.
There are also those who, as many people have mentioned here already, see disliking stuff as being intellectual, and love to use phrases like "objectively bad" to describe the stuff they don't like (as if there were such thing as objectivity in art).
These people like to say they dislike stuff cuz the analyse it and don't just mindlessly consume it. To me, this represents a fundamental disagreement about the role of analysis in the artistic experience. They use it to look for any flaw in the work (and there will always be flaws), while I analyse the stuff I watch to look for its good points, I use my analysis to improve upon my inicial enjoyment of the show.
(as if there were such thing as objectivity in art).
art is mostly subjective, but even in anime there are things that are objective
but even in anime there are things that are objective
In my view these objective things in anime are limited to stuff like "this anime is X episodes long and was animated by studio Y". Statements like these are objective, but they're meaningless on their own, when it comes to judging the quality of the work.
Any interpretation of a work is only necessarily true for the person interpreting it and in the exact context said person experienced it. It can be true for other people in other contexts, but there's no guarantee of that.
I remember a thread a while ago about this topic, I'll link my comment here, where I explain my position in more detail. It's kinda long, so I totally won't hold it against you if you don't feel like reading it :)
personally i'm a numbers nerd and like seeing a normal distribution even in cases where there obviously shouldn't be one (like anime ratings)
also i found one of my favorite anime
by intentionally trying to find bad ones and the actual bad ones are great for having a laugh with friends
another reason is that i prefer having a slightly large separation between what i consider actually amazing stuff and pretty decent middle of the road stuff, instead of having everything clumped between 7 and 9 and then a huge gap between that and like, sword art online or family guy or whatever is cool to rate a 1 these days
what do you mean, anime ratings really should be a normal distribution
though mine is pretty triangular somehow and i don't think that's gonna change
If you are just watching a large random sample of anime then yeah your ratings would probably end up normally distributed, but most people are vetting the shows they watch rather than going at random, and may even drop shows that would otherwise score on the low end. So a left skew or triangular distribution would probably make more sense for most.
I do it because my ratings were scuffed
I used to never rate below a 6, so I decided to change everything. Up until a few months ago the majority of my ratings were 7s, so 7s didnt really have any value it was just "ah, its a 7 so thats average" which put me in the mindset of "why would i watch an anime thats JUST a 7?". Not a good mindset, so I raised some and lowered other ratings across the board so now I can feel a little more like my 7s have value.
its not about mean score in my case, then again I feel that if youve watched 200 shows with an average rating of an 8.5+ then somethings wrong a bit. But in the end it doesn't really matter that much does it.
Why is there something wrong though? Someone happens to enjoy most anime they watch. Maybe they check them out before starting to make sure it's good and to their taste. Definitely not talking about me..
To me, watching an anime which you clearly know it's not to your taste, just to give it a bad score, or you watch it before starting an anime which you anticipate it's going to be good in order to appreciate it more, is beyond dumb. But that's just me xD
true true, idk man, seeing an average score of a 9 when you have watched 200 shows, you mean to tell me that like 100+ of those shows are all equal AND 9/10s at that. I get its objective vs subjective. But even enjoyment wise idk, might just be me who thinks thats weird but idgaf lol, not my list not my call.
Because people tend to think having a lower mean score makes them more acceptable and like someone else said "better than everyone else" bc they decided to critique every last thing abt an anime. its that elitist mindset some ppl be having smh.
This is why the other day i just decided to get rid of my ratings and only rate anime that i believe deserve a 100 a 100 and only have that as a rating. I mean as long as YOU know u enjoyed an anime, it doesnt matter what someone else thinks abt it
wait does this mean i rate the elitist way? because i rate mine using the systems Advanced rating style. basing it with:
it's just easier for me to rate an anime ;u; like back then i used to always compare them with what my highest rated anime is and if its at par and stuff. and i dont like thinking to comparing x.x so i do this. but you said that and im thinking,, am i rating things the elitist way then? ;u;
no, it’s fine if u rate like that, but i’m talking abt the people who rate like that and try to make it their entire personality that they critique the anime and try to find something abt it just to make their rating just a bit lower, or compare their ratings to others and always saying stuff like “why do u have so and so rated so highly” etc. etc. yk what i mean?
I watch things that are considered bad in order to form my own opinion on them, instead of automatically following what everyone else says about them.
Although, the really low rated stuff I mostly just watch out of curiosity. I don't typically expect them to actually be any good.
Has nothing to do with trying to intentionally lower my mean score or anything, I don't really care about that at all.
No, it does not make their profile aesthetic at all and don't feel bad either. I have a high mean score, that's because I appreciate what I watch/read.
Those who have an exceptionally low mean score just love forcing themselves to watch something to get upset about. Masochist is the best way to describe them.
Yes, I acknowledge this is stupid but most of the time the main reason I try to lower my mean score on purpose is because having a high mean score is associated with "being a dumb person that just watches stuff without any thinking or criteria", so whenever anime/manga scores get close to reach 80, I do the thing