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← view full thread · [Spoilers] Chainsaw Man - Episode 9 Discussion
wait, kobeni is not just an useless comedic relief meme? now i like her even more
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She was never useless. Comedic relief? absolutely (but even that is not made to be excruciatingly annoying like Zenitsu, her mental breakdowns are very much understandable). But not useless. Even someone like Aki with his Kon and Himeno and her Ghost hand couldn't do much against the Eternity devil so keeping that in mind I have no clue where "Kobeni is useless" idea came from.
Well, the "idea" that Kobeni is useless pretty obviously stems from the fact that she contributed nothing besides shouting and screaming and stabbing her teammates during the Eternity Devil arc.
Aki was searching for a way out, and Arai was helping him. Himeno, Denji and Power didn't do much but they also weren't incessantly whining the entire time like Kobeni was. At least they kept calm and didn't allow the situation to worsen. Plus y'know... they didn't outright attempt to kill their teammates, so there's that...
They might've been in a bad situation but Kobeni's seriously just annoying, and contributes almost nothing but poor comic relief (like Zenitsu) throughout the manga.
But… isnt she right? The only way to get them the hell out of that hotel is to toss Denji to the devil so idk. Zenitsu is annoying bc he’s strong but always puts himself into some of the most stupid situations while here, there’s nothing you can do. It was completely hopeless. If not for Denji, they are all dead. Like what do you mean by allowing the situation to worsen? It was already the worst situation.
It was a bad situation but then she goes and stabs her team leader when it hadn't even been decided that the plan was officially to let the Eternity Devil kill Denji. She literally contributes nothing but harm to the team, at least in that arc. Plus she's insanely annoying with her incessant screeching and crying (which is where the Zenitsu comparison comes in).
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Aki is the only one who decides not to kill Denji. And he got stab bc he protected Denji, not bc Kobeni tried to stab aki. She made the right decision: kill a stranger to save others. Other contributed what? They just walk around and do nothing. Like there was nothing they can do besides killing Denji, later or sooner. Imagine if she didn't try to stab denji, they would have to stay there longer, with no food. Let's say we delayed sacrificing denji in like 2 or 3 days. They would have to be there for 6 days. Meaning they are fucking dead. Plus the devil will just grow stronger due to the fear.
About the crying is annoying. Well i dont really care. Im not gonna mad at someone crying in that situation. Zenitsu has the strength to not be in stupid situations but he always chooses to be a fucking pussy. That's what made him annoying. Not just the crying screaming.
See, Kobeni has the balls to kill someone to save herself and her team but Zenitsu can only do shit when he sleeps it was a bad situation but then she goes and stabs her team leader when it hadn't even been decided that the plan was officially to let the Eternity Devil kill Denji.
Everyone there except Aki had made up their minds to kill Denji period. To make sure Aki doesn't get in the way Himeno uses her ghost to bind him. Also Kobeni wanted to stab Denji not Aki who forcefully got in the way. I don't think you understood the scene very well.
She literally contributes nothing but harm to the team, at least in that arc.
She was literally helping Himeno and Arai, who like I mentioned above went with the "kill Denji" plan. So again pretty flawed argument.
Plus she's insanely annoying with her incessant screeching and crying (which is where the Zenitsu comparison comes in).
I agree to a certain degree. The anime amplified her "nervous noises" for more comedic effect, but her breaking down, crying and being paranoid is fine and displays her personality as opposed to Zenitsu who magically becomes calm when the situation needs him to be (he is awake for the major fights).
The show also constantly talks about having "screws lose". In Denji's case its how he approaches fights with no regards to himself, taking unhuman amounts of punishment with a smile. In Kobeni's case she balances her skill by being emotionally unstable (very much normal).
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Well, the "idea" that Kobeni is useless pretty obviously stems from the fact that she contributed nothing besides shouting and screaming and stabbing her teammates during the Eternity Devil arc.
Everyone there except Aki had made up their minds to kill Denji period. To make sure Aki doesn't get in the way Himeno uses her ghost to bind him. Kobeni was literally helping Himeno and Arai, who like I mentioned above went with the "kill Denji" plan. So again pretty flawed argument. You also seem to think she stabbed Arai (teammates) which she did not. I don't think you understood the scene very well.
Aki was searching for a way out, and Arai was helping him. Himeno, Denji and Power didn't do much but they also weren't incessantly whining the entire time like Kobeni was. At least they kept calm and didn't allow the situation to worsen. Plus y'know... they didn't outright attempt to kill their teammates, so there's that...
Again did we watch the same anime? Power literally ate all their food. Also like I mentioned above "kill Denji" was agreed upon so she attempted to do just that. And again she didnot slash Arai. Apart from the whining part nothing in your point makes sense.
They might've been in a bad situation but Kobeni's seriously just annoying, and contributes almost nothing but poor comic relief (like Zenitsu) throughout the manga.
Again her contribution was helping Arai and Himeno in killing Denji and getting out. The fact you compare Kobeni to Zenitsu leads me to believe you understand nothing about her character lol.
